An investigation report on the 8 - two common problems and enterprise CTO/CEO/HR management of College Students' internship

CSDN University Club Obtain employment Investigation Report 


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Abstract: in August 2014, CSDN University Club launched for College StudentsResearch on the demand of College Students' internship"Activities. As of the end of 10.31 days, a total of hundreds of college students received feedback, the collection of contemporary college students in the practice of employment in the general mentality of the problem and employment expectations. So the club finishing analysis all the research data, a representative and the problems for the students reacted strongly to invite industry experts and management person to answer one by one, I hope to graduate and confusion in students' reading and to provide reference to help and guide the benefit.This article is the original CSDN university club, all of the original view of the collection. If you need to reprint, please indicate the source of the CSDN university club, or contact studentclub@PROG3.COM.

[University Student Internship Employment Research Report] contains two parts, the second part of this post.

Part I: survey data statistics and analysis

The second part: common problems and Enterprise Technology & Management

The second part: common problems and Enterprise Technology & Management

Reflect the eight categories of problem student centred, CSDN University Club invited IT industry senior technology officer (CTO), "bat" technical director, CEO and director of human resources to, respectively, on behalf of the from different regions and the size of the company needs, are expounded their views, for school students to explore the exchange.


Click on the question tag to read directly:

School curriculum VS industry new technology   The choice of working city region   Professional counterparts of internship positions   How to do without work experience

Whether there is a high degree of superiority   Graduate institutions VS personal capacity   The choice of weak skills   Fresh graduate salary


Question 1: the Internet industry has developed rapidly, students generally believe that the university curriculum content obsolete. Do you need to learn the latest cutting-edge technology industry? Do the required courses in the school still need deep learning? How to combine these two kinds of knowledge learning?

BAT technology manager:It can be sure that the latest cutting-edge technology in the self - learning industry, whether in school or in the job is essential. Although the rapid development of the industry, but the development of basic theory and basic principle of the computer, and there is no qualitative change, so professional compulsory subjects is still main ways for students to master the basic, is the foundation of the subsequent rapid learning and thinking training, can not be ignored. In class, pay attention to theoretical study, in the spare time to find their own interest in the direction of the industry and the industry's leading technology applications, each other.

Senior CTO:School is fundamental, is the foundation, is the future work necessary, a lot of cutting-edge technology is established on this basis, though not to learn new technology, but we can from the Internet on these new technologies, as a school to learn an effective supplement.

Enterprise CEO1:University courses on basic knowledge. This is because any subject need solid basic knowledge as the foundation, in order to ensure in other languages and technologies by analogy. It is recommended that a thorough understanding of the university curriculum is the first, and then the new technology.

Enterprise CEO2:Some courses in university curriculum will exist some disconnection. But a part of the work is still very important value. It is necessary for students to learn new technologies in their spare time. Required courses such as data structure, database, compiler theory, such as the need for deep learning, rather than in order to cope with the examination. In addition to the textbooks can also find some of the Internet information and books to increase the depth of understanding. Common learning products such as online school, Netease cloud classroom, khanacademy on curriculum is of great value.

Enterprise founder:Exist side by side and play a part together Not a single one can be omitted Basic professional courses are very important, but to understand the study, rather than simply to the memory.

HR supervisor:Need to learn cutting-edge technology industry, while the school required courses to be synchronized deep learning. Practice is the combination of these two types of learning methods.


Question 2: at present, the development of the Internet best area concentrated in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and other big cities, computer and other related professional graduates, in the choice of location, first tier cities and the second and third tier cities in the selection criteria and the standard is what??

Senior CTO:From a development point of view, should be selected for their own industries in the area of development, the first line of the city's technical line is better than the two or three line of the city.

Enterprise CEO1:The choice of employment area actually includes the employment company, as well as the urban environment. Each person's value orientation is different, the importance of these two points are not the same as the judge. Usually graduates can enter Ali Jingdong or perfect Internet companies like for the future career have considerable help and suggestions according to their ability and future planning properly choose and prepare for an ideal employment company recruitment requirements for.

Enterprise CEO2:This problem can be deeply shallow, deep can be extended to the choice of life. Choosing a first tier city means pressure: from competition, life, etc.. But on the other hand is the self promotion speed, ability, knowledge and so on. Just graduated from the two or three line of the city in the beginning of the work of the city are the same, the follow-up is the study of the strength of the contest. Choose a line or second line depends on the amount of their own heart.

Enterprise founder:This is mainly to see their own choice. What do you value. Second tier cities are developing rapidly, there are a lot of opportunities.


Question 3: choose the internship opportunities, is to choose the professional counterparts, or whether the nature of the professional counterparts, to the first to enter the industry to accumulate experience for the purpose of it?

BAT technology manager:In addition to the professional, more important and personal interest, this is the power to support the long-term development of individuals. If there is a chance, or a professional counterparts priority, so as to play the director. It is recommended not to be able to find a job as a goal, this is more likely to take a detour, even if the accumulated some experience, the next time for the industry or job change, those accumulation will be greatly reduced.

Enterprise CEO1:The first choice of course is a professional counterparts, and seek to be able to try the other work in the industry in the industry in the practice of the nature of the opportunity.

Enterprise CEO2:Of course, is the choice of professional counterparts. Or a little bit of other aspects of their training is also considered in the column.

Enterprise founder:Interest is the most important.

HR supervisor:Nine85/211 students need professional counterparts, the rest of the school students to enter the enterprise after.


Problem 4: most of the conditions for enterprises to recruit and hire out of work experience. If the traditional form of learning in school for four years, there is no work experience, it is not difficult to find a job?

BAT technology manager:If there is no experience, then it is not every course can be excellent? Also in school for four years, still have a lot of students have some work experience, these experiences come from laboratory projects, internship programs, graduation design topics, etc.. At present there are a variety of open source community, programming contest activities, these are also the way to accumulate experience. Therefore, the accumulation of work experience is not given by others, but to find their own. Not only to cherish every opportunity to practice, but also to continue to sum up the pros and cons, the pursuit of excellence. Need not be too entangled in 'work experience', but more attention to the cumulative effect of a variety of practical experience.

Senior CTO:Yes, experience is through practice to accumulate, some enterprises will develop, for some enterprises without ability, so the card conditions matter, so everyone in the school through various channels to the accumulation of the corresponding professional experience.

Enterprise CEO1:First, the actual situation is optimistic about a lot of. Most of the enterprises have arranged team echelon recruit graduates and training needs. You've got to be prepared is to lay a solid foundation, improve their ability to learn, and try to understand the requirement of job skills, employment is only the first step, to in the industry goofy is determined in the future to participate in the work of the accumulation and growth.

Enterprise CEO2:Yes 80% of the students will be difficult to find a job. Another 20% or so is the school, your own quality, ability to decide.

Enterprise founder:Can not write code, do not have the ability to do, no one wants to.

HR supervisor:Recommended for such students to participate in campus recruitment.


Question 5: high degree students are given priority to be chosen?

In just the end of the club in October 2014 an internship employment survey report shows that "51% of the respondents were confident that we will be able to find a job, but salary is not ideal; and 14% of the population think have higher education graduate students are more likely to find work, from the enterprise point of view, highly educated students whether does have innate be selective advantage? If the answer is no, why?

BAT technology manager:Choice is a two-way, both in the choice is also in the choice. Under the same conditions, higher education students in the knowledge of the depth of the surface and the general will be more prominent, thus increasing the probability of choice. But this is not to say that only high degree is, education is just choose an indicator of process, and is a constant index. Therefore, the results must not determined by the index only, there are a lot of knowledge, skills, quality and other factors. So we can not only academic theory, equality of opportunity in front of everyone.

Senior CTO:Education to a certain extent, the ability to represent the ability, but also not to the extent that the science and engineering professionals, more skills to master, most of the business card in the same time, pay more attention to the ability of the assessment.

Enterprise CEO1:Now the Internet companies in the use of the polarization is more serious. There are financial strength of large enterprises are faced with a lot of resumes need to be screened, HR will be important to the degree of primary election through the standard, but small and medium companies will be more detailed and accurate manner to judge the ability of individuals. Employment is always the first step, the individual ability to determine your promotion space in the enterprise, as well as in the industry's achievements.

Enterprise CEO2:In most Internet Co, education in the undergraduate or more is enough. Graduate and undergraduate students at present, there is no difference in nature, and can not reach the ability to work hard. From the current salary structure, the vast majority of cases, in the same level of students, a higher degree of people, in the initial into the enterprise will be higher than the low degree of people. But this is not representative of preference, only on behalf of the recognition of learning experience.

Enterprise founder:The higher the degree, the worse the ability of the students in our interview. At least we're not superstitious.

HR supervisor:Yes


Question 6: graduate institutions and personal capacity, the company's first choice standard is what?

The club to practice employment survey report, 84 percent of respondents hope enterprise from the point of view of personal ability of candidates to pick appropriate jobs, and not merely on the advantages and disadvantages of college graduate and professional counterparts to determine positions required talents ". In the face of the students generally reflect the aspirations, combined with the current large enterprises focus on the actual situation of 985/211 colleges and universities, as an enterprise technical management, how do you look at this issue? And what specific measures?

Senior CTO:Individual ability is very important, the college is only a basic requirement, enterprise use is to find the right talent, not to find a good school talent.

Enterprise CEO1:Enterprise value is the need of personal ability, the university is not the decisive factor. However, it is an indisputable fact that excellent graduates are more likely to cultivate excellent students. In depth understanding of the employees' personal ability, the graduate school is one of the criteria for the enterprise to judge.

Enterprise CEO2:My choice is to try to be the 985/211 sequence of the graduates to choose. Screening for the right talents. Is either a good student, or is itself a competent. The number of students in front of a number of. Companies to provide training opportunities for these students, in the project constantly hone them, expect them to quickly integrate into the team, the survival of the fittest.

Enterprise founder:We'll think about it. We only recruit undergraduate colleges and universities, we will believe that the basis of the basic learning ability and understanding will be a problem.

HR supervisor:Graduate institutions, there is no reason to test the ability of 985/211.


Question 7: if not one's deceased father grind, take an examination of the public, when graduation professional ability is weak, how to choose the career direction in this kind of situation? Do enterprises accept such employees and give short-term training?

Senior CTO:Look at the enterprise, and some large enterprises will cultivate people, small businesses will not train people, because people have the cost of training, the burden of large enterprises is higher than small enterprises.

Enterprise CEO1:To participate in the work itself is a kind of learning and growth, choose to meet your interests and skills of the primary career, do not care about the salary, seize the opportunity to pay will be rewarded.

Enterprise CEO2:Suggest you reduce expectations. To the Venture Company, the size of the company, the opportunity is still a lot of. He is optimistic about you, will give you the right position, will give you the opportunity to train.

Enterprise founder:Why not cultivate their abilities when they are not at school? Cramming, no use.

HR supervisor:Do not accept, four years of university to do? Enterprise training is to allow him to enter the style and rhythm of the enterprise, not the skills training.


Question 8: how to determine the salary of this year's salary?

University Club internship employment survey report shows that 37% students look forward to the first job a monthly salary of 3000-5000 yuan / month, while 40% students expect the first job a monthly salary of 5000-10000 yuan / month. Face two different salary range, how to define the salary standard of this year's graduates? What qualities and abilities do you think students can get beyond the average level of high wages?

Senior CTO:General enterprises have their own salary scheme, the definition of each enterprise is not the same way. Students graduate employment, is from a school of people to the social occupation of the transformation, who is more able to show the characteristics and skills of a professional person, who will be able to better adapt to the enterprise.

Enterprise CEO1:Large and medium - scale listing Corporation may have relatively rich entry-level salaries, but the competition is relatively intense. Keen observation, excellent learning ability and hard work spirit is the core quality of each enterprise value. In the use of human choice, the employer will be from the school performance and interview performance to judge, and actively participate in the selection of schools, events, and social practice of labor are important points.

Enterprise CEO2:Strong professional level. Good team cooperation ability. Have had a lot of practical experience. The enterprise does not think he is only a graduating student, and as a good candidate to be cultivated. Whether it is professional technology or management. Moreover, the salary, enterprise is not Duoliangqian care or three thousand.

Enterprise founder:The definition of salary level depends on the development of the city and the company itself. We will give the students the level of industry in the city above the level of pay. If a student is especially important to pay, we don't think about it. Suggested that the students look at the long term, some patience.

HR supervisor:Company research with the same type of industry after the company decided that no matter what the quality and ability of students, can not get the company's salary system outside the high wage. The truth is that money is not our target population.


Students reflect on the problems from the point of view, in addition to 985 / 211 institutions, colleges and universities for many students, not only of industry, the lack of necessary to understand, of its development is blind. And don't know enterprise, selection criteria, some even in the presence of ship directly to the natural bridge fluky psychology. A person's ability is mainly through our own hard work and continuous learning practice income. University of time for each student is equal, if graduate you are not competitive, you first need to think, you during the period of university do? Did it really work hard to cope with the exam?

Tamp the foundation knowledge seem far behind in the high-speed development of the popular technologies, but the basic principle and the basic theory of computer development, and there is no qualitative change, so professional compulsory subjects is still main ways for students to master the basic, is the foundation of the subsequent rapid learning and thinking training. Understand this, you will also complain about the basic course of the useless? You will also be valuable to the University of time to indulge in games and entertainment, the most valuable youth waste life? Stop complaining and complaining, begin. Use your strength to pry open the gate of the business. Too old to learn. That s' it Never!

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GraduateSouth China University of Technology

Good enough

January 17, 2015 22:17:58


StudentAnyang Institute of Technology

For us this is not very famous school students, reading the understandable produced a lot of pressure can be said is Barilla miscellaneous Chen, incentive, a beating, exhortation, irony. In short.... Everything depends on their own, the strength is the most important.

January 25, 2015 18:30:13